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Post by Aryeec {E.F. Forester} on Jul 28, 2007 12:12:55 GMT -5
That's wrong. I think they might as well be condemning God.
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Post by GhostEggplant on Aug 4, 2007 17:39:35 GMT -5
This is a question for those who believe in Hell and Heaven/God and Satan. It's a thinker. If you had a choice to go to hell to give everyone already there a pass to heaven and keep anyone else from every going to hell, would you? Probably not. I would be glad to give the people/souls/spirits (whatever they are) in Hell a chance for redemption, but not a free pass to Heaven. You've got to earn the right to go to Heaven. (I don't mean that everyone's going to Hell unless they go on some mighty quest. You don't start at Hell and work your way up, that's not what I'm saying.) If the souls in Hell were to change their ways (a little late, but still...) and sincerely want forgiveness then the option of sacrificing your own soul for their good might be a possibility. However, I don't believe God would want you to spend an eternity in Hell just because you HELPED some people/souls. That would be a cruel and unusual punishment (not that the Bill of Rights affects God). If God gave the option of entering Heaven to the souls in Hell, I don't believe He would want you to roast there forever. So your question doesn't really work... I don't think I gave a very straight answer. >.<
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Post by shyviolet on Aug 5, 2007 2:25:40 GMT -5
It's probably a trick question. You're already going to Heaven, so if you say no you'd probably still go, but, I dunno, maybe God would be a bit disappointed in you. Anyway, if you say yes and get all prepared to go to Hell, God would turn round and say "Aha! That is exactly what I hoped you would do! You can still come to Heaven for being so willing to sacrifice yourself."
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Post by Aryeec {E.F. Forester} on Aug 5, 2007 12:23:10 GMT -5
It could be a trick question. I meant if God meant it though.
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Post by GhostEggplant on Aug 7, 2007 15:43:50 GMT -5
God's a tricky guy. *shifty eyes*
Creationism or evolution?
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Post by shyviolet on Aug 8, 2007 2:06:55 GMT -5
I don't think the argument between creationists and evolutionists makes sense. Creation as dictated in the bible is obviously flawed, since Adam and Eve only had two SONS, unless there's some serious incest going on there the Bible is missing some characters. But on the other hand, I have no problem believing that God is interested enough to set up the world and watch it get to humans by itself. It would be more fun that way! What would you do, set it up all perfect first time? Or set it up like a line of dominoes and watch some tiny single-cells slowly grow into the creatures you wanted, all because you engineeered them the correct environment? I think the latter sounds much more fun, and more rewarding.
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Post by zemira on Aug 8, 2007 9:04:12 GMT -5
I believe in evolution, but I'm still not sure what sparked the first organism in the first place.
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Post by GhostEggplant on Aug 8, 2007 23:10:09 GMT -5
I think God creating the earth in seven days is just a more godly way of saying "and this is how we got to how the earth is now." Yes, God created all life on earth, just not in under 168 hours.
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Post by Tama on Aug 9, 2007 6:02:33 GMT -5
Evolution, if only so I can claim that people are weakening the gene pool.
Has anyone ever heard of the Religious Society Of Friends? I'm considering membership, see, and it's surprisingly worthwhile...
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Post by Aryeec {E.F. Forester} on Aug 9, 2007 16:13:15 GMT -5
There is a way that it could've been seven days. God's days could be like millions of our days. It's seems like a stretch, but I believe it all happened in seven days. Since God can do anything, who's to say that He can't make Earth seem older to us?
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Post by shyviolet on Aug 9, 2007 17:01:43 GMT -5
Hate to burst the bubble, but in the original language of the Old Testament it doesn't say 'days', it uses a word that doesn't have an english equivalent that means 'an unspecified increment of time'. It could mean seven millennia or seven seconds or anything in between or outside of that.
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Post by GhostEggplant on Aug 11, 2007 19:01:03 GMT -5
Ah, that's nice. It clears a lot of things up.
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Post by Tama on Aug 12, 2007 20:17:49 GMT -5
What, you've seriously not given evolution a thought?
That's a little worrying...
So much of life on Earth is unable to exist without 99 other lifeforms doing what they do. You tell me something got every single thing right, just straight off the bat?
And dinosaurs? Where do they fit into creationism? They certainly weren't 'dinosaurs of Eden' because that theory revolves around every single thing living a herbivorous life.
And if they were, what then? If every single animal and thing on earth ate strictly plants, how come so many species are carnivores or even omnivores? Surely that suggests evolution happening somewhere along history, ie, creatures having to adapt, to evolve, to survive!
That includes humans.
If creationism is absolute fact, then explain the redundancy of the appendix.
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Post by shyviolet on Aug 13, 2007 3:04:53 GMT -5
I believe in evolution, I also believe God created earth. I've never got why it couldn't be that evolution was what God wanted to happen, since there's too much evidence to deny it existed and Genesis doesn't really give a good alternative explaination. If i were God I'd find evolution much more interesting.
Who hasn't given evolution a thought? Am I missing someone?
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Post by marleen on Aug 13, 2007 3:51:03 GMT -5
... not to mention: if the old testament was sufficient source of information about how to live your life, all christians would actually be jews.
I think it's very weird how firmly some christians refer to the old testament. If Jesus CHRIST would've been content with the old testament... erhm... yeah. Well, christianity had never even been "invented".
That being said, I was raised christian (in a very liberal way) and I believe in christian values (which, in all fairness, are kinda similar to those promoted by other religions): be nice, don't hurt anyone, do charity, have faith, all is well.
I believe in God but I like to refer to it "the greater spirit" or something along those lines since I ever still associate some old bearded bloke with the word "god" who likes punishment and revenge. My own personal experiences with the greater spirit/God were a lot warmer and friendlier than that.
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