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Post by bluephoenix on Feb 16, 2007 17:20:46 GMT -5
Ok, Chris has a lot of Macabre and scary stories and moments in his books, and I was wondering who thought what parts were the sickest and darkest.
STORM THIEF SPOILER!!!
The one thing Chris has written that literally made me drop the book and my jaw, was when the truth behind Ghetto Nutrient Gruel was revealed. I felt so nauseated. It was great...
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Post by Tama on Feb 17, 2007 16:14:28 GMT -5
The nutrient gruel bit definitely shocked me. I kept going back and thinking 'no way!' even though part of me had seen it coming. I haven't been disturbed, though.
Was freaked out by the monster at the beginning of Alaizabel, though.
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Post by shyviolet on Feb 17, 2007 17:13:43 GMT -5
*most exceedingly minor spoilers for Braided Path*
Having read the Braided Path and all, I'd say descriptions of what the Weavers to people in their post-weaving rages are the most disturbing thing in any of his books. People (often children) being raped to death, skinned alive, partially eaten etc.
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Post by valca on Feb 18, 2007 18:01:10 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with shyviolet, however, I'm generally immune to "disturbing" stuff.
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Post by bluephoenix on Feb 18, 2007 23:22:06 GMT -5
I mean, yeah, usually I'm cool with it too but...I mean...I dunno, you can talk about any kind of torture and it's cool with me (well, not cool but you know...) but I mean, secretly making the Ghetto-folk cannibals...making them eat their own kind it was just so WRONG
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Post by Maliris on Feb 19, 2007 6:19:00 GMT -5
I must admit that I am not very easy to freak out by disturbing things. I am weird like that, I know.
I remember that I read this part of Weavers ["What Weavers do when they are in a mad, dark mood."] to Wollschaf and S.D. and they were disgusted. Rightfully so. I mean, it is very "ugh". But I still think that this whole madness-idea makes them such great villains. They are vile, they deserve death and worse. Whenever Kaiku was confronted by a Weaver I was really afraid of her dying or of other characters dying. So, it really helped building a great enemy. And I mean great as in "omg, they are so poweful! How are we ever going to defeat them?"
I enjoy reading something about enemies who really are enemies. They don´t just say nasty words they really do evil things. They are deadly and not to be underestimated. Capable enemies. It helps creating the most suspensful moments in book-history [or movie-history] when you just think that this is it that there´s no escape this time.
As to the Ghetto Nutrient Gruel... mankind does that to animals, too. Now I sound like some coldhearted, evil being. I am not. I remember thinking that this whole city Orokos was wrong and that it should be changed for good.
I think a good example for gruesome parts is the whole "Bonewitch"-story in Poison.
Spoiler, mind you!
I felt sorry for the dogs.
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Post by shyviolet on Feb 19, 2007 10:12:59 GMT -5
I do like that the Weavers are so totally evil and insane and scary, it makes them excellent villains, but it's still definitely the most disturbing aspect of any of his books for me.
The way the nutrient gruel is made is very horrible too though, the whole idea of Orokos was horrible, but it takes something a little more... personal for me to be unsettled enough to call it disturbing.
Oh, it was also the way there are Weaver moments chapter after chapter, the nutrient gruel it what, five lines? When it happens with vivid description over and over again it gives the sickness a new dimension, y'know? I'm not very easily disturbed either (seems to be a pattern with us) so it takes time and repetition for something to sink in enough to disturb me.
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Post by bluephoenix on Feb 20, 2007 23:53:17 GMT -5
Well, if animals were eating humans i'd be ok with it. Still, if I found out I was eating human...eugh
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Post by shyviolet on Feb 21, 2007 15:35:36 GMT -5
I consider that I may have been somewhat... desensitised to cannibalism by watching bits and pieces of all three Hannibal Lector films when I was small. My older sister thinks they're brilliant so I saw quite a lot of them before I really should have.
I think that's why skinning people seems more horrific to me than eating them. Unless of course they're being eaten ALIVE, that's quite unsettling...
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Post by bluephoenix on Feb 21, 2007 16:06:53 GMT -5
But it was the fact that they were feeding the ghetto people their own kind without them knowing. if THEY ate their victims I wouldn't have minded.
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Post by riven on Feb 21, 2007 22:28:22 GMT -5
I agree, that was creepyful :x I tend to try not to think about it cause its creepy and Rail n Moa (and Vago) are too awesome for that creepyness...
"I felt sorry for the dogs."
"I just wanted them to die. They didn't have to make a scene...."
Or whatever that one was. xD
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Post by Tama on Feb 22, 2007 14:15:03 GMT -5
To me, the worst part about the nutrient gruel was this idea that the ghetto folk were sub-human, and it didn't matter what they were fed. That icked me out slightly.
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Post by bluephoenix on Feb 24, 2007 23:48:53 GMT -5
deffinately. The part in poison where the spider crawls out of the faerie king's mouth was creepy too, but not toss-your-cookies-creepy
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Post by shyviolet on Feb 25, 2007 3:28:37 GMT -5
Oh, wait! I totally forgot about that! The concept of Asinastra's baby being the offspring of the giant spider outside made me retch, though not actually vomit. I mean, apart from what it would be like to give birth to a spider hybrid, how was it concieved?
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Post by zemira on Feb 25, 2007 10:55:49 GMT -5
Maybe there's a reason Chris Wooding never specified about the conception, lol. Ew. I wonder if he's ever grossed himself out before? He certainly seems to enjoy doing it to his fans. ^_^
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