I am now starting to read it the boring way: chronologically.
Starting with chapter 40 and remembering something I had thought back when I had first read that chapter. I am not good at analysing people, but I find it interesting that Orna would marry a man whose outer appearance resembles her own father so much. Both were huge, burly, had dark hair and a bushy beard. I am always cautious to read too much into anything but nine years of analysing literature till every last sentence and every last word was explained to death haven't left me unscathed. Orna looks for something she loved but lost in her troubled past. I do find that interesting, actually. <_<
I love that book. It's so deep and confusing and original (that word is over-used, I know). I never suspected the twist, but I'm not really the type of person to sit back and think instead of just reading (perhaps I'm just stupid). There's so much that I want to know - more about the world, mostly. The different races sound so intriguing, as does the general wildlife.
I may sound like a naive fool for saying it, but I wouldn't leave Charn behind. I mean: he's a bastard, but what the Gurta do to people sounds so horrible I wouldn't leave anyone behind. Just get him out and dump him as soon as possible.
Post by Chris Wooding on Sept 14, 2008 12:57:42 GMT -5
Don't worry, Maliris, you got it right. Glad you noticed! Just as the man who rescued her from the Gurta looks like her father. She unconsciously associates dark, burly, bearded men with safety and protection... and with her childhood, before the Gurta came, the last time she was ever free.
It's all the sneaky little touches that make this writing lark fun!
@ Flight: Ah, but you forget that Charn is far too valuable as a blacksmith. They'd never kill him. It would probably have been too difficult to get four people out of there, one of them being, erm, too big to hide. And if they had all disguised themselves as women... that would have looked funny but the book would have been much, much shorter, too... Sorry, I let my mind wander off.
I love that book. It's so deep and confusing and original (that word is over-used, I know). I never suspected the twist, but I'm not really the type of person to sit back and think instead of just reading (perhaps I'm just stupid).
No, I do the same thing too. I will sometimes get an idea into my head about what might happen, but I much prefer just to not think about it and be surprised at the ending.
Post by shyviolet on Sept 16, 2008 13:03:50 GMT -5
I don't think suggesting that she looks for things that remind her of her trouble-free childhood would be reading too much into it even if Chris didn't helpfully show up and clarify the way he does; it's a documented phenomenon that happens in real life. Women choose partners who look or act like their fathers even without having huge emotional turmoil, kidnap, slavery and indentured servitude in their lives.
This does not apply to women who had a negative father-daughter relationship.
Plus, Orna pretty much tells us it's like that by wondering what she would have done if a slight, clean-shaven soldier had appeared to rescue her. Then again, I studied English Lit. for ages too, so maybe I over-analyse things as well and don't realise...
...Thankfully she does not look like my father, lol. My father is very fat, very gray hair, very smelly, all fake teeth, and just very ugly, lol. Unfortunately, I look a great deal like my father. Same eyes, same hair...but I bathe so I look cleaner, and I'm not as overweight. I think the only thing I got from my mom was her mouth...or so I've been told. Honestly, I don't see it at all, but oh well.
Post by shyviolet on Sept 16, 2008 15:28:30 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like my grandpa. He smells like a mix of several unpleasant colognes though, not someone who hasn't washed in ages.
I have a weird mix of features as far as inheritance goes. I look almost nothing like my Mum or dad, but I have almost the exact same body shape as my Mum's mother and the same nose as my dad's mother. Apparently i look a little like Mum's dad too, but he died before I was born and we don't have many photos of him. Amusingly i look absolutely nothing like my big sister, but my little sister shares features with both of us. When all three of us line up we look like sisters, but if it's just me and my big sister nobody believes we're related.
I don't look anything like my Mum or Dad, but mentally I'm very much Dad and emotionally I'm Mum. I inherited my height from Dad, really nothing else in physical appearence. I look like an identical copy of my Dad's sister according to all my family, but she also died before I was born and my Dad only has one photo of her. My brother is bascially a copy of Mum, and most people don't think we're related. Most people also seem to think me and Mum have identical sounding voices, but I don't think so.
Wouldn't it be weird if your fiancee looked just like your father?
This is unfortunately the case with my boyfriend, as it has been with all my other boyfriends, to the point where when I brought my current man home Mum yelled at me to stop bringing home guys just like my Dad.
Like my Dad, my past and current boyfriends all have dark hair, hazel eyes, olive/tan/dark skin (except all my boyfriends tend to have Italian backgrounds, not Polynesian), tall, glasses, stubbles or occasionally small beards, and even moles and freckles in the same places on the face. Even more creepily their personalities tend to the be same as well.
I forget about it though most of the time, until someone brings it up, but it doesn't really freak me out cause I get along well with my Dad.
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